Molly and Jeremy have eaten Nutro Lamb & Turkey chunks with gravy canned for about a year. I stopped feeding it when the recall was announced because it is a chunk/cut and gravy type food, but not on the recall list. I stopped it as a precaution.

FYI - Nutro canned catfood are not on the Nutro recall list - only the pouches.

In the meantime I've tried feeding other foods. Neither of them will eat anything but Fancy Feast Chicken in gravy. However, the past few days Jeremy has started to get back his Eosinophilic Granuloma lesions (EG). This morning I noticed a small one on his lower lip. This is not good news and I can only attribute it to the FF.

BTW - Jeremy always has one or two small lesions under the skin that never open - it's just the way it is. When he starts scratching - or if any of them open up I apply hydrocortisone and they usually clear up. However, this is more serious. I gave him a Prednisone this morning that I still have from the prescription the vet gave him the last time. I have enough for a week - this will probably work and they will clear up, but I need to take care of the source of the problem.

I said repeatedly that I would not go back to the Nutro until this whole thing is settled. I am now rethinking this. They never had a problem with it, it is not on the recall list and still on the shelves everywhere I go. Only the pouches are not there.

I know this is a personal decision, but am I being paranoid? Any thoughts?

Thanks for any thoughts, info, advice - whatever.

Maria

Maria - sometimes paranoia can be a good thing and sometimes...well, not so much. If the foods are not listed on the recall they should be ok.... I understand your fear though. Isn't there another brand you could try for a while???? Or even feed them Hill's science diet if you must. I would stop the fancy feast - or at least that particular flavor - for now to see if the EG retreats with the FF being withdrawn.

Maria... if the foods you feed are not on the list and it's the only thing that Molly and Jeremy will eat, then I say go for it. JMHO

Ok... I read the article (quickly) and it only refers to Iams dry foods so, at this point, mine are still all ok. (I've never fed Iams to either the dogs or cats) I feed Purina One (salmon and tuna), Purina Naturals and hm.....there is Nutro Max Roasted Chicken but there have been no issues from the bag that I am nearly finished with. So, I will keep feeding those dry foods until told otherwise. The dogs are on prescription Hills for weight management for now so they should be ok too.

As for my canned cat stuff... I'm still feeding Wellness and Precise. They eat it and there have been no problems to date... should be ok.

Maria, what that article by PETA says is:

"With the FDA now confirming that consumers suspect dry pet food may have sickened or killed their companion animals..."

It does not say that the FDA has confirmed that is happening. Just that people are suspecting dry food.

If the FDA had truly confirmed that dry food was also a problem, it would have made the new on tv and all the newspapers.

PETA sometimes skews things. They have been against Iams for years. Notice that article is calling for yet another boycotte against Iams, but only Iams. Why not all the other pet food companies? PETA is just using this to try to get at Iams again because they hate Iams. I would not consider articles by PETA as very reliable.

Here is the FDA's official statement on the matter:

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Regarding your feeding the Nutro that is not on the list, there is no evidence at this time that it is a problem.

Have you tried the Fancy Feast Elegant Medley's? They are bit higher quality than the regular Fancy Feast and all my cats love it. They don't all love the regular Fancy Feast.

Margaret,

Thanks for the clarification - actually I used a poor paraphrase when I said the FDA confirmed "complaints." I didn't mean they confirmed there was sickness from the dry foods. I appreciate the correction, though!

You know, the reason I hesitate about feeding the Lamb & Turkey is because I don't really understand why it isn't recalled when it is made by Menufoods and is the cuts and gravy. I keep thinking they will add it to the list. The only thing I can think of is that it might be manufactured in one of the Menufood plants that is not affected. I wish Nutro would clarify why only the pouches are recalled and not the cans - all the other companies are recalling their cuts in gravy. I know others are wondering the same thing as I read some blogs. Also, I've emailed Nutro 3 times and got the same pre-set response with a note: email again now. I did 3 times - to no avail.

I think I will try the medleys - I tried them once before, but they wouldn't eat them.

I'm going to try one can tonight - in the meantime, if they don't eat it, I'll just continue with the chicken in gravy since I'll be away for a week and don't want to start something new before I go - and I'm still wary of the Nutro.

Maria

Maria:

Michelle wrote:

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As for my canned cat stuff... I'm still feeding Wellness and Precise. They eat it and there have been no problems to date... should be ok.

I've learned, over the past few days, that the Wellness can food I feed Evan (and the other guys, when they will eat it) is also made by Menu Foods.

The same goes for the Eagle Pack wet foods. Eagle Pack makes its dry food at its own plant. The wet foods are made by Menu Foods

Precise (which is a brand I really liked, but can't seem to get any of it anymore), refused to disclose if their wet food was made by Menu Foods. When asked, Precise said that the information was “proprietary”. Given the current environment, I would think a “no” answer (if it could be truthfully given) would give them a competitive advantage over all the other premium brands.

I will continue to feed Evan Wellness, even though it is made by Menu Foods. I really do not have much of a choice – as the Wellness Chicken / Turkey (mixed with baby food) is all he will eat. I guess I could try the Eagle Pack Chicken and Lamb (mixed with baby food) and see if that will work. However, I’m still in the same place – feeding Evan a food made in a Menu Food plant.

My advise is as follows: If the food in NOT on the recall list, I would go ahead and feed it. Menu Foods and the other Pet Food Companies has said that recalling many of the products / formulas / brands is precautionary. It’s like recalling all peanut butter from every manufacture if only one brand is tainted. It sounds as if the food companies have issued a wider recall than absolutely necessary.

Also, I think the dangers of taking Jeremy off of the food you know he can safely eat without causing the EG to return is real and immediate. You do not want the EG to resurface, with all if its attendant problems.

I hope this helps

Mark

PS: Precise has several distributors in Montreal. I’m only an hour or so away from the city – and the newest mapping software on my laptop computer (with GPS unit) has finally included Canada. I may go up there soon and buy a case of Precise.

Mark,

Thank you for your thorough response. I believe you're right. I guess I'm not alone in this battle as to what to do. All this is really terrible. Also, it's very difficult to comprehend why it has all but disappeared from the media - a blurp on TV now and then with no updates. I did read that there is a possibility that rat poison isn't the culprit, but some ingredient in plastic. I'll try to find where I read it - I should have stored it somewhere.

At any rate, I think I'm going back to Nutro this evening. I'm going to be out of town Sunday and then going on a retreat Monday. I want to know they will eat when I'm gone. Thankfully my petsitter knows them and is so good to them. And they trust her.

Maria